'Granted the AFL does get more revenue from their TV deal, for what reason that is I have no idea, and either do you. ....'

 it gets more becasue it's worth more...the last two major deals and the next deal...30%+ extra in revenue

you delude yourself that RL has a huge TV following..it doesn't....this is a common myth peddled by RL morons to explain away their pitiful crowds and empty stands...'everyone watches on TV' the twisted logic goes...and 'AFL is onlygood live' is the other limb of the same twisted outlook...

every single week, and every year the AFL outrates the NRL...the AFL GF is nomrally around 25-30% more viewers oni OzTam figures every year - funny that...sort of co-incides with the discrepancy in the deals./...doesn't it!!...people who care to can look at Oztam's website...

 mate even if i was wrong - which i'm not - I'm rather be getting the revenue that the AFL does...doesn't it mess with your mind that in your world RL is so far ahead yet so far behind....doesn't this contradiction mess with you!!? fools...

Look this is a simple fact , so rugby league does not get more money than greedy aussie rules, "what you have to think about is this", there deal is done and dusted, completed, we get the first choice at the next t/v deal, take into account that aussie rules is going nowhere with there over paid deal, everyone has mentioned this, So by the time the rugby league deal comes up we are sitting in prime position.

What this means is rugby league will be worth a fortune, and aussie rules will still be the game to have to go to watch, take into account the economy in dires straights thanks to the world economy and you know what happens, memberships evaporate and aussie rules becomes a dog box, league on the other hand is growing with more supporters as our figures show.

So , what will happen is league will be a t/v dominated sport and overtake aussie rules . This will be their downfall because recovery from this will never happen, once league pokes its nose in front, will be the beginning of the end of aussie rules being the number one sport in the bottom states. They obviuosly wont go away as our mate has shown, so we will let them play there funny game where you punch balls and elbow aponents in the head until its dies a sad death.

Their was a article about A.F.L boss being sad because they were down 5 thousand at there anzac day game from last year. So it begins dogged, here comes the fall right before our eyes, wonder how many one-eyed fans you get to that funny origin game you have next month.

A lot of people were calling your boss greedy, but the rest of oz already knows this.

I have always said this, once people wake up to your brainwashing, your game is finished.

And if alot did not wake up after that anzac day game, maybe they are still asleep.?

yet again same old sh*t, FFS show me where AFL outrates NRL. Just because the deal is worth more doesn't mean sh*t, sure you get more money wow, does this mean you get more viewers? well according to dallymessengers ratings NO, so find me some TV ratings when AFL is winning, until then I'm going to believe his TV ratings. You seem to yap about how the Deal is worth more so it MUST get more viewers, what a load of crap, the TV ratings clearly show that NRL dominates.

here you are jim you simpleton//// ...suck on this...why did i even bother!!...you could have easily got this yourself!...and if you can't read this get somebody esle to read it for you....

 http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22516401-5012431,00.html

you will notice that the NRL can't even catch the AFL despite the massive lift it got from the Melbourne base watching the Storm and also being scheduled at night (compared to AFL at 2pm on a Saturday)....in years that the Storm are not in the GF the NRL is even further behind...and when the NRL was a  daytime game further behind again////...RLeague is not within a bulls roar mate...get over it...and this is consistent with why your game gets paid much less...less viewers!! period...no further explaining to do...no conspiracy theories or excuses....and no lies....just get over it...or don't get over it and just remain deluded...who cares ...as long as it's true for you that's all that matters i guess

I'm not going to squable any more....facts are facts...the NRL is far behind...they know it even if some of their moronic supporters like you may not.....the  nRL itself knows it

 

Hahahahaha,

 

The way you were carrying on I thought, oh maybe hes found something, but of course I should have known better. That is only the statistic for last years grand final you moron!. One game!. Look at the full list of stats Dallymessenger has provided!, not just for one game.

And ah, dont you think that maybe the NRL grand final would have rated even better if it was between a QLD and NSW team?, instead of a NSW and VIC team?. I highly doubt there are an abundance of Melbourne Storm fans in the NRL heartlands of NSW and QLD.

dogged:

here you are jim you simpleton//// ...suck on this...why did i even bother!!...you could have easily got this yourself!...and if you can't read this get somebody esle to read it for you....

 http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22516401-5012431,00.html

you will notice that the NRL can't even catch the AFL despite the massive lift it got from the Melbourne base watching the Storm and also being scheduled at night (compared to AFL at 2pm on a Saturday)....in years that the Storm are not in the GF the NRL is even further behind...and when the NRL was a  daytime game further behind again////...RLeague is not within a bulls roar mate...get over it...and this is consistent with why your game gets paid much less...less viewers!! period...no further explaining to do...no conspiracy theories or excuses....and no lies....just get over it...or don't get over it and just remain deluded...who cares ...as long as it's true for you that's all that matters i guess

I'm not going to squable any more....facts are facts...the NRL is far behind...they know it even if some of their moronic supporters like you may not.....the  nRL itself knows it

So the article says that there was 2.48 million from the cities +1.3 million from rural NSW QLD watchinf league which is a nice 3.78 million... not to mention the Fox viewers... too bad they don't provide AFL's but usually if something ios not quoted its gonna pretty bad. So our Simpleton friend here dogged, chose an article that actually shows that NRL outrates AFL... thanks for backing that up and making yourself look like a goose. :)

Like you have done previously on all occasions, it looks like you read one line, not the article, made a sweeping inacurate statement and then have made sweeping inacurate generalisations... But dogged, why should you let facts get in the way of you making silly comments hey. I hear that Rugby Unions looking for another spin doctor... maybe you can break that magical 6 Billion barrier for them ;) .

Seriously dogged why are you on here, you are way out or your League (no pun intended), your a guppy in a ocean full of sharks, and the great whites haven't even begun to feed on you carcass. You while you still have any shred of dignity left, go back to your little hole that you can believe what you want.

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dogged:

here you are jim you simpleton//// ...suck on this...why did i even bother!!...you could have easily got this yourself!...and if you can't read this get somebody esle to read it for you....

 http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22516401-5012431,00.html

you will notice that the NRL can't even catch the AFL despite the massive lift it got from the Melbourne base watching the Storm and also being scheduled at night (compared to AFL at 2pm on a Saturday)....in years that the Storm are not in the GF the NRL is even further behind...and when the NRL was a  daytime game further behind again////...RLeague is not within a bulls roar mate...get over it...and this is consistent with why your game gets paid much less...less viewers!! period...no further explaining to do...no conspiracy theories or excuses....and no lies....just get over it...or don't get over it and just remain deluded...who cares ...as long as it's true for you that's all that matters i guess

That's the best you could come up with, my god you are retarded.

dogged:

I'm not going to squable any more....facts are facts...the NRL is far behind...they know it even if some of their moronic supporters like you may not.....the  nRL itself knows it

Good then, don't squable, leave!

yawn ....yes i will leave...this is like having a conversation with a fundamentalist christian group that believes the earth is only 6000 yrs old. All the evidence consistently points to an ancient earth - genetics, geology, evolution, space exploration and so on - but these nutcases keep patting each other on the back and telling each other the earth is flat, is only 6,000 years old and is the centre of the universe - with stars and sun revolving around us.....you lot are exactly the same. You keep repeating the nonsense that the NRL somehow has a superior 'TV audience', selectively quote biased and incomplete stats and by repetition convince yourselfs and you fellow morons of the 'truth' of your ridiculous and baseless claims...and you ignore basic logic and lie and twist facts.

but as i go a couple of points to Druzik that *** his delusionary theory

1. the nSW country figures ? - seems very high - are you assuming every persoin in NSW country is watching? People in southern NSW dont' even follow RL - I wonder what percentages were applied to cook up this number,..anyway don't bother responding - even if I accepted your numbers as treu you still lose the argument (see points 2 &3 &4)

2. the switch to Sunday prime time broadcast in NSW/QLD/Vic (plus delayed to varying degrees in other minor states) in 2001 delivered - and still does deliver - the NRL an additional 1 million viewers they would not have if they did a daytime telecast like the AFL. This 1 million lift in audience was well documented at the time so don't ask me to reference it for you. I've had a very quick google but can't see it easily but it can be found I just don't have the time (and have wasted too much time already leading you donkeys to water). So the NRL gets an extra 1 million viewers simply by virtue of its prime time broadcasting arrangements (please don't anyone try to muddy the waters with the falacious "but it's dealyed telecast in WA//SA" and so ..overall the prime time deals arrangements favour the NRL compared to AFL's Saturday 2pm slot) - if not for the switch to night the NRL GF wouldn't even be in the ballpark of the AFL GF it's that simple. Keeping with tradition costs the AFL about a 40% cheap lift in its TV viewing audience that it could acheive by switching to night but it stays with days because the core supporter base like the tradtional days rather than pick up this extra audience. Sunday evenings are TV viewing peak of the week whereas Sat arvo is a low (people work/shop/play sports and so on and are less likely to be in front of the TV like on a sudnay evening). If you measure both GFs on equal terms you look to the ADDITIONAL audience over and above what you would typically otherwise get in these timeslots to see the pulling power of each event....so you've got to adjust RL's figure down by roughly 1 million for a like for like comparison - or just go to pre-2001 figures when both GFs were day broadcasts to see how very far behind RL was - this pretend 'rivalry' on viewing numbers only arose AFTER to NRL's switch to night and the additonal viewers this gave - even then the NRL still loses the main measure which is the '5 city' measure ..  

3. the Storm being in the GF gives an additonal 500K viewers that would otherwise not tune in...probably a few hundred thousand would still tune in - but proabbly around 500K less ...

4. SA country, WA country, Vic country have not been included in your odd little equation as you admit...

So Druzik by going back and adjusting your nonsense figures taking into account points 2-4 you'll find the NRL is about 30-40% behind - there it is again that 30% number. The free market does work!! Reality does work - the earth does revolve around the sun and not the other way around!! Fool!! What's more do you realsie that in 2007 the NRL had eveyrthing going for it but still fell short - the Storm made the GF, the night NRL broadcast verses day AFL broadcast, a non-metro melbourne side (Geelong) verses the poorly supported Port Adel, a very one-sided AFL GF game that in the end was boring...even with all of these advantages RL still couldn't win Oztams 5 city rating!!...this shows just how far behind RL is mate. Over the long term you're not going to have the Storm in the GF for most years so you won't be within a bulls roar and ususally not even close enough to attempt your funny fuidging of the numbers .....

I'm just going to lump you lot in with the religious nuts who believe weird things on faith with no reliable evidence... in your world the earth is flat, is only 6000 yrs old, man walked with dinosaurs -- oh and the NRL has a massive TV audience far exceeding the AFL's TV audience in numbers yet for some unspecified reason negotiates broadcast deals worth around 30% less than the AFL's deal- and will continue to negotiate lower deals.....ah and less people actually go to watch RL live because everyone sees it on TV..yeah.....typical moronic, mindless chatter from deluded RL tragics explaining away reality ... the real world is the market, the NRL administration, broacasters and the commercial deals based on hard data and the value of the outcomes in hard dollars -  - forums like this are often filled with nonsense which has been displayed over an over... 

i don't know how this got thread got to the same old GF issue ...on expansion it is clear that the NRL has some potential in NSW...it may even take some games to WA at some stage (as the AFL already does in Canberra, Darwin, Tasi) but it is very unlikely we will see another WA side...more likely in fact is the reduction of teams - particularly the Storm which is inherently unviable and is being propped up to the tune of $8m annually by News Corp - when News Corp lose patience the Storm are finished - unless of course the NRL sets up some sort of subsidy arrangement which I think they proabbaly will - after all if the Storm ever did go then any claim to the NRL being 'National' is totally ridiculous - even more ridiculous than it is now...

anyway I've had this thread....I'll leave you believers and flat earthers to your expansionist delusions...I see in another thread there's talk about USA taking onthe game...newsflash - even in Australia many people outside NSW/QLD refer to both RUnion and RL as "Rugby" and would have difficulty telling you the difference between the two codes - and it'd be even worse in USA - the few yanks that have even heard of "rugby" wouldn't even be aware of Runion and RLeague distinction...talk about delusion!!   

 

 

One Eyed Git, carrying on about the world being flat and only 6 million years old, we all know the world is square and 300 years old.!

At least we got him to admit the ariel ping pong grand final was boring, and all there games are boring, one up for league, i will send this through to gallop so he can have a look at our victory, oh also we have a day grand final this year, just so we can give them another hiding in the t/v ratings, he is trying to wish the storm go away, wont happen dog, not until we have many more followers in your poxy state, the more we can de-brainwash , the better.

more lies, delusions and half-truths....in 2008 you have twilight GF not a day GF as you've just claimed...and you still play into prime time slot...starting at 2pm is day - starting at 5pm is not day...also I said "in the end" the GF was boring not that it was boring...even a boring AFL GF is far more entertaining that the NRL GF..and was watched by more people...

and that 'ariel ping pong' sledge is a nice touch,,,always makes me laugh to hear this....what does it even mean?...to me it just means the person saying it is a moron...that's all i get from hearing that... 

Well its looks like our old mate dogged was right after all. He did convince me that AFL is the greatest game. It's not played by a bunch Kansas City Faggots, it is a real man's game. That half the country isn't brainwashed in believing in the religion of AFL even though the rest of the New World laughs in its face. That it is the most popular sport by far in the Southern Hemisphere. That this years RLWC will be a total flop followed by only a hand full of people of this blog. Man, I now feel a sense of enlightenment, a kind of utopia. I HAVE SEEN THE LIGHT!!! Wake up and smell the mung beans everyone.

Not!

You seem to know alot about our game dog,

 "in the end" is that after they bunch that ball, hahaha, bounce , what a silly way to start games, so after they bounce the ball is that in the end because thats when people sleep and it becomes boring?

Dog who cares what time they play, it still will get better veiwings than aussie rules, and all your bored supporters will not turn up to another crap game like they did last time, i think people are waking up now after last years drival.

 The way you mob are going nobody will turn up, oh no , wait on, you lot are stupid enough to pay for a whole year of that crap, how stupid are you mob in melbourne.? The rest of the country is laughing there arrses off at you down there, we have every code in our states and we still are giving you lot a hiding.

Its only a matter of time before soccer becomes number 1 sport, and i for one are glad because your dumbarrse game will then be second best, and we all know , no prizes for second.

You need to go and give it to soccer blogs , as you have shown us on here dog, we are not a threat. According to you?

dogged:

.."how he conveniently overlooks certain things, like the TV ratings Dallymessenger posted a little while back."

 Mate i've asnwered the TV thing about 10 times!!!... look send all your TV data to the NRL...get Gallop to explain the following to you - how a TV broadcast of NRL (FOX plus free to air) which you claim thrashes the AFL in terms of viewers gets about 30% less per game than the AFL in its broadcasting deal (and that's being generous becasue 30% is lifted straight from one of Roy Master's articles so it's likely to be even more)......

whatever warped TV figures you try to argue your case (and frequently when talking to RL people figures are not national and exclude everything outside NSW/QLD) you either have to come to one of two conclusions - 1. the AFL gets a *** load more money due to the gfact it has many more viewers or 2. RL actually has more TV viewers but it did a shocking deal in negotiating its broadcasting deal....incompetence by NRL or a less popular sport..those are your only options...and it is the later....and i'm not even going to bother responding to specific viewing figures and listen to nonsense arguments that RL has nmore TV viewers yet gets paid far less for its broadcast...total nonsense...the NRL gets less becasue less people watch....

send your arguments and your stats to the NRL...argue with them not me... 

 

dogged,

If Rugby League telecasts obtain more viewers than Australian Rules telecasts on Terrestrial TV and Subscription TV, then Rugby League is more popular among TV viewers   If Australian Rules matches draw higher attendances than Rugby League matches, then Australian Football is viewed by the majority of people as the better game to watch from the stands.  When both of these scenarios are combined, it means that people believe that Australian Football is a good spectator sport to watch from the stands but NOT from the couch --Rugby League is the better game to watch on TV.  If people can watch a game on TV for FREE, then few of them are going to go to the trouble of paying lots of money on tickets and travel so that they can see the game from the stands.

How come you're incapable of understanding this?  Is your inability to understand this derived from your biased stance on the issue, or is it a byproduct of something more disturbing, such as an inability to follow a logical sequence?

I have known people with cerebral palsy who were more adept at following a logical sequence.

dogged:

do i need to reference plain facts for you mate....the value of NRL and aFL broadcasting deals are so well documented I won't bother - if you doubt me you look it up... what I will give you is a link to an article where Roy Masters moans about the NRL broadcasting deal....he doesn't get it and you don't get it....broadcasting deals are concrete evidence of overall viewership - proof of the true numbers...

Not necessarily.  There are other variables at play that can influence the market value of the two sports. For example, the fact that Australian Football's viewer support is spread among four states -- as opposed to Rugby League's support over two states means that the former has the most potential to gain money through television advertisements and sponsorship deals.  Companies from Melbourne, Adelaide, Hobart, Victoria, Geelong and Hobart would pay big money to have their product advertised on the nearest TV station that broadcasts the AFL.  The NRL's ability to gain money through television advertisements and sponsorship is limited to Queensland, New South Wales.  (You could add the ACT and Northern Territory as potential bases for both the NRL and AFL, but they are only very small markets.)

A television network will want a product that will allow most of its affiliates to draw high ratings in the regions they are broadcasted.  Australian Rules Football can draw high ratings in 7 to 8 regions: Adelaide and regional South Australia; Perth and regional Western Australia; Melbourne and Victoria, Tasmania and the Northern Territory.  Rugby League is going to draw high ratings in Brisbane, Sydney, regional Queensland and regional New South Wales.  Can you see how this wold influence a network's decision to pay lots of money for the television broadcast rights of the AFL.

Over 50% of Australia's population lives in Queensland and New South Wales.  Rugby League is loved by Queenslanders and New South Welshman.   Therefore, the fact that Rugby League is the most popular sport in Queensland and New South Wales means that more Australians are going to watch Rugby League (as opposed to watching Australian Football).

If you cannot understand this, then you're intellectually retarded.

dogged:

yawn ....yes i will leave...this is like having a conversation with a fundamentalist christian group that believes the earth is only 6000 yrs old. All the evidence consistently points to an ancient earth - genetics, geology, evolution, space exploration and so on - but these nutcases keep patting each other on the back and telling each other the earth is flat, is only 6,000 years old and is the centre of the universe - with stars and sun revolving around us.....you lot are exactly the same. You keep repeating the nonsense that the NRL somehow has a superior 'TV audience', selectively quote biased and incomplete stats and by repetition convince yourselfs and you fellow morons of the 'truth' of your ridiculous and baseless claims...and you ignore basic logic and lie and twist facts.

but as i go a couple of points to Druzik that *** his delusionary theory

1. the nSW country figures ? - seems very high - are you assuming every persoin in NSW country is watching? People in southern NSW dont' even follow RL - I wonder what percentages were applied to cook up this number,..anyway don't bother responding - even if I accepted your numbers as treu you still lose the argument (see points 2 &3 &4)

2. the switch to Sunday prime time broadcast in NSW/QLD/Vic (plus delayed to varying degrees in other minor states) in 2001 delivered - and still does deliver - the NRL an additional 1 million viewers they would not have if they did a daytime telecast like the AFL. This 1 million lift in audience was well documented at the time so don't ask me to reference it for you. I've had a very quick google but can't see it easily but it can be found I just don't have the time (and have wasted too much time already leading you donkeys to water). So the NRL gets an extra 1 million viewers simply by virtue of its prime time broadcasting arrangements (please don't anyone try to muddy the waters with the falacious "but it's dealyed telecast in WA//SA" and so ..overall the prime time deals arrangements favour the NRL compared to AFL's Saturday 2pm slot) - if not for the switch to night the NRL GF wouldn't even be in the ballpark of the AFL GF it's that simple. Keeping with tradition costs the AFL about a 40% cheap lift in its TV viewing audience that it could acheive by switching to night but it stays with days because the core supporter base like the tradtional days rather than pick up this extra audience. Sunday evenings are TV viewing peak of the week whereas Sat arvo is a low (people work/shop/play sports and so on and are less likely to be in front of the TV like on a sudnay evening). If you measure both GFs on equal terms you look to the ADDITIONAL audience over and above what you would typically otherwise get in these timeslots to see the pulling power of each event....so you've got to adjust RL's figure down by roughly 1 million for a like for like comparison - or just go to pre-2001 figures when both GFs were day broadcasts to see how very far behind RL was - this pretend 'rivalry' on viewing numbers only arose AFTER to NRL's switch to night and the additonal viewers this gave - even then the NRL still loses the main measure which is the '5 city' measure ..  

3. the Storm being in the GF gives an additonal 500K viewers that would otherwise not tune in...probably a few hundred thousand would still tune in - but proabbly around 500K less ...

4. SA country, WA country, Vic country have not been included in your odd little equation as you admit...

So Druzik by going back and adjusting your nonsense figures taking into account points 2-4 you'll find the NRL is about 30-40% behind - there it is again that 30% number. The free market does work!! Reality does work - the earth does revolve around the sun and not the other way around!! Fool!! What's more do you realsie that in 2007 the NRL had eveyrthing going for it but still fell short - the Storm made the GF, the night NRL broadcast verses day AFL broadcast, a non-metro melbourne side (Geelong) verses the poorly supported Port Adel, a very one-sided AFL GF game that in the end was boring...even with all of these advantages RL still couldn't win Oztams 5 city rating!!...this shows just how far behind RL is mate. Over the long term you're not going to have the Storm in the GF for most years so you won't be within a bulls roar and ususally not even close enough to attempt your funny fuidging of the numbers .....

I'm just going to lump you lot in with the religious nuts who believe weird things on faith with no reliable evidence... in your world the earth is flat, is only 6000 yrs old, man walked with dinosaurs -- oh and the NRL has a massive TV audience far exceeding the AFL's TV audience in numbers yet for some unspecified reason negotiates broadcast deals worth around 30% less than the AFL's deal- and will continue to negotiate lower deals.....ah and less people actually go to watch RL live because everyone sees it on TV..yeah.....typical moronic, mindless chatter from deluded RL tragics explaining away reality ... the real world is the market, the NRL administration, broacasters and the commercial deals based on hard data and the value of the outcomes in hard dollars -  - forums like this are often filled with nonsense which has been displayed over an over... 

i don't know how this got thread got to the same old GF issue ...on expansion it is clear that the NRL has some potential in NSW...it may even take some games to WA at some stage (as the AFL already does in Canberra, Darwin, Tasi) but it is very unlikely we will see another WA side...more likely in fact is the reduction of teams - particularly the Storm which is inherently unviable and is being propped up to the tune of $8m annually by News Corp - when News Corp lose patience the Storm are finished - unless of course the NRL sets up some sort of subsidy arrangement which I think they proabbaly will - after all if the Storm ever did go then any claim to the NRL being 'National' is totally ridiculous - even more ridiculous than it is now...

anyway I've had this thread....I'll leave you believers and flat earthers to your expansionist delusions...I see in another thread there's talk about USA taking onthe game...newsflash - even in Australia many people outside NSW/QLD refer to both RUnion and RL as "Rugby" and would have difficulty telling you the difference between the two codes - and it'd be even worse in USA - the few yanks that have even heard of "rugby" wouldn't even be aware of Runion and RLeague distinction...talk about delusion!!   

That article you supplied was a joke dogged, if you think it convinced me AFL gets more viewers keep trying. You only just outrated us in capital cities, where by your claims you should have flogged us, i mean RL is played in 3 capital cities AFL has 5, yet you only just beat us? hmmm bit strange that... Also RL would have cleaned up in non-capital cities such as; newcastle 500,000, GC 600,000, Townsville 160,000, Rockhampton and Mackay 75,000 ea, cairns 135,000, woolongong 280,000, Sunshine Coast 230,000. Now these are all areas that are non-capitals in NSW and QLD. Now these areas are all well populated and RL mad, all you have really are 2 or 3 cities in WA, SA and Victoria that are around 100,000. So in non-capital cities RL cleans up.

Here's an interesting little stat for you.

Population of Victoria - 5,200,000, Population of Melbourne - 3,805,000 - % of state in Capital city = 73.2%
Population of WA - 2,100,000, Population of Perth - 1,555,000 - % of state in capital city = 74.1%
Population of SA - 1,585,000, Population of Adelaide - 1,160,000 - % of state in capital city = 73.2%

Population of QLD - 4,182,000, Population of Brisbane - 1,857,000 - % of state in capital city = 44.4%
Population of NSW - 6,890,000, Population of Sydney - 4,335,000 - % of state in capital city = 62.9%

Hmm would you look at that, so apparently SA, WA and VIC have a total of 2,365,000 outside of their capital cities. On the other hand QLD that figure is matched by QLD alone at 2,325,000 outside of brisbane and 2,555,000 outside of Sydney thats a grand total of 4,880,000. OK so by those calculation NSW and QLD have more than double the people living outside of the states respected capital cities than Victoria, SA and WA put together.Hmm so you think your "country" viwers so to speak, are going to outrate ours? I think not.