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Last post 06-09-2008, 1:35 PM by England 3 Lions. 557 replies.
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  •  02-07-2008, 1:35 PM 301321 in reply to 283903

    Re: Expansion

    I can understand what you are saying with there needing to be more attention payed to having another team in brisbane. But it think putting another team in that area will detract from the support of the broncos. Now i no in sydney there are alot of teams, but they have been around for years and the supporters of ne team will never follow another, meaning getting rid of a team such as parramatta will not caus a team such as the sharks getting more fans, it will just caus more fans to stop following the game all together. Now re locating a team or a brand is good such as central coat being called the bears, will let some fans of the bears to come back to the game aswell as the existing supporter base in the central coast having a team follow. Now England 3 Lions  you pull out facts such as campbelltown has a population of around 143 000, but you fail to acknowledge that campbelltown is part of a larger region known as macathur with a population of 237 000 and that will increase by over 40% within ten years. It is the fastest area of growth in sydney. They need the west tigers to play in this area full time. The reason why fans dont go to games is that they are not played in there local areas. E.g. teams playing at homebush.

    Also these are the teams in sydney atm-  Bulldogs, Eagles, Eels, Panthers, Sharks, Rabitohs, Roosters, Tigers, Dragons.

     

    Three of the teams I have mentioned play at the same ground, they need to bring these teams back to their own areas. Tigers should be permantly based iin the macathure area. Dragons in wollongong.  any other sugestions?

  •  17-07-2008, 3:13 PM 306792 in reply to 301321

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    byrne86:

    Now England 3 Lions  you pull out facts such as campbelltown has a population of around 143 000, but you fail to acknowledge that campbelltown is part of a larger region known as macathur with a population of 237 000 and that will increase by over 40% within ten years. It is the fastest area of growth in sydney. They need the west tigers to play in this area full time.

    You have a good point there.

  •  18-07-2008, 6:11 AM 307118 in reply to 301321

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    byrne86:

    Also these are the teams in sydney atm-  Bulldogs, Eagles, Eels, Panthers, Sharks, Rabitohs, Roosters, Tigers, Dragons.

    Three of the teams I have mentioned play at the same ground, they need to bring these teams back to their own areas. Tigers should be permantly based iin the macathure area. Dragons in wollongong.  any other sugestions?

    I don;t want to see any od the names go, it was bad enough with all the mergers and do if anything this is what I think should happen. Sts move to central coast souths take over the St George junior area, Sharks take over the Illawarra junior ares - I have no issues with a Illawarra-Sutherland sharks team, I used to quite like the Steelers, also geographically this makes so much more sense than stgeorge Illawarra, Wests 100% need to relocate peramnently to macarthur, with a very occasional game back in Leichardt - 2012, bring in Perth and either ajnother QLD team (Sunshine coast) or NZ team (Wellington). The rest are good as they are but should look to be doing many more games at the old local grounds.


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  •  21-07-2008, 6:01 AM 309276 in reply to 307118

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    in my opinion you can't relocate a brand that has alot of history, it doesn't work.

    the game needs to head back to perth, wellington and maybe another team in south east queensland.

     i've read alot of people from this site talking about a sunshine coast team, i'm from the sunshine coast and i'm not sure, caloundra to noosa..it's a large region with no real central point, i'm not sure where you would base a team.

  •  21-07-2008, 7:39 AM 309289 in reply to 309276

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    QLD-bulldog:

    in my opinion you can't relocate a brand that has alot of history, it doesn't work.

    the game needs to head back to perth, wellington and maybe another team in south east queensland.

     i've read alot of people from this site talking about a sunshine coast team, i'm from the sunshine coast and i'm not sure, caloundra to noosa..it's a large region with no real central point, i'm not sure where you would base a team.

    It has to happen eventually no... its too large an area to ignore.

    I hear Ipswich being touted as another possibility.


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  •  22-07-2008, 2:10 AM 309780 in reply to 309289

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    The Sunshine Coast Dolphins backed by the Redcliffe club with support from all over the Sunshine Coast. Perhaps Suncorp can be used till a new stadium like the Gold Coast one is built.
  •  22-07-2008, 2:21 AM 309782 in reply to 301321

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    I have previously put forward the Bears rebirth in the Central Coast area. The Sunshine Coast Dolphins and a renaming of the Wests Tigers as the Balmain Cambelltown Tigers. Wests can have a proper existence as the West Australian Magpies in future expansion.This Magpies club would have the same colours and branding as the Wests club of Lidcombe and also an affiliation. This has worked in the AFL and will work for RL.
  •  27-07-2008, 1:10 PM 313609 in reply to 301321

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    A lot of people believe Rugby League's foothold in Sydney will die if its NRL clubs aren't kept in the competition.  The argument is based on the premiss that fans will remain loyal to their teams and refuse to support anyone else.  The premiss might hold true if one or two of the Sydney-based teams were removed while the others were kept in the competition, but the likelihood of it happening would diminish if all of Sydney's NRL clubs were replaced by a few new teams.

    In the advent of long-life fans turning their backs on the NRL because their favourite teams were omitted from it, interest in the game could be kept by tapping into Sydney's youth.  The NRL could set up a link between the new teams and the communities they represent.  Competitions could be set to entice children to follow the sport.  For example, each primary school in metropolitan Sydney could set up a weekly/bi-weekly raffle and/or academic competition, with the winners of it gaining a family pass to attend a home match for the NRL club that represents their area.  The clubs could set up more programs with the schools so the children can meet the best players in the NRL.

  •  28-07-2008, 3:20 AM 314647 in reply to 313609

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    Your youth ideas have merit but these can only work with the historical advantage of established identifiable clubs. Otherwise, you will alienate a massive amount of existing public support & jeopardise the credibility of the NRL competition. Addition not extinction is the formula for future growth & success!
  •  28-07-2008, 2:21 PM 314944 in reply to 314647

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    ROOSTER:
    Your youth ideas have merit but these can only work with the historical advantage of established identifiable clubs. Otherwise, you will alienate a massive amount of existing public support & jeopardise the credibility of the NRL competition. Addition not extinction is the formula for future growth & success!

    The A-League is doing okay, isn't it?  The established association football clubs from Sydney and Melbourne were replaced by new teams.  The move has been a success.

  •  29-07-2008, 5:49 AM 315483 in reply to 314944

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    Completely different . Not the established success of the NRL and is a succes purely because it is played in the summer season. They filled a void in the market place!
  •  29-07-2008, 6:41 AM 315488 in reply to 314944

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    England 3 Lions:

    ROOSTER:
    Your youth ideas have merit but these can only work with the historical advantage of established identifiable clubs. Otherwise, you will alienate a massive amount of existing public support & jeopardise the credibility of the NRL competition. Addition not extinction is the formula for future growth & success!

    The A-League is doing okay, isn't it?  The established association football clubs from Sydney and Melbourne were replaced by new teams.  The move has been a success.

    Mate they had no choice... the old NSL teams and games were literaly like war zones and armies! Even now there are still simmering tensions at many AL matches between fans, they are already starting to segregate the fans like in Europe.


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  •  29-07-2008, 11:02 PM 315899 in reply to 315488

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    Once again we are talking about a summer competition!Not relevant fellas!
  •  30-07-2008, 6:12 AM 316002 in reply to 315899

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    true.
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  •  04-08-2008, 5:54 AM 319014 in reply to 316002

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    It was with relief, I heard David Gallop support the maintenance of all the existing Sydney clubs in the NRL. The game is in the right hands, but I do strongly feel that the lost North Sydney/Nth Shore fans will be won back if the Bears are given life in the form of the Central Coast/Nth Sydney Bears franchise. If a club with the same colours,moto and playing out of that wonderful stadium in the Central Coast with the occasional game at North Sydney Oval were added to the NRL, it would be an instant success! Gallop has acknowledged the immense damage done to the game by merging and cutting teams in Sydney. Afterall, we are talking about the biggest city market in Australia and for that matter the southern hemisphere and growing! Expansion, not deletion or merging of clubs is the go for the NRL!

    The club badges ie) Magpies etc are an immense established advantage if they can be used in an expansion area. This is why I a strongly suggest that the West Australian expansion club be linked and carry the West Magpies colours and moto. It engenders instant recognition and visibility within the market. As I have mentioned before, the Tigers can be renamed the Balmain-Campbelltown Tigers, which still enables RL support in the respective areas of Sydney.

    QLD expansion is a different scenario. It is an established RL state with teams that have recognisable branding. I have opted for the Sunshine Coast as a new expansion club/area with the Redcliffe club being the principle backing club. Perhaps a shared use of Suncorp till a stadium is built(like the Gold Coast one) would be the go in its formative years. The Sunshine Coast Dolphins does seem to have promise as a future NRL franchise. 

     By doing the above, some very feasible& market friendly & logical expansion clubs can be achieved in the not too distant future!

    Heres hoping!

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