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Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

Last post 28-04-2008, 4:53 PM by England 3 Lions. 49 replies.
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  •  24-04-2008, 12:16 PM 265939 in reply to 265936

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    Funny you said that druzik, about the sharks, because apparently he is going to the sharks verse bunnies game, so he might be looking to get them involved,. will keep a eye out for more info as it unfolds.
  •  24-04-2008, 12:31 PM 265942 in reply to 265939

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    Bunnies first win of the year then! Damn
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  •  25-04-2008, 8:58 AM 266175 in reply to 265930

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    oikee:
    Just like to mention that darral spinner howland from the Jacksonville Axeman is going to be here in oz next month to promote another game to be played over in Jacksonville next australia day, weather its the rabbits again or he might be thinking of inviting another team over there, i have heard on the grapevine that Holmes-a-Court wants to take the rabbits to another destination, so spinner might be trying to get support from another club? Would be the best idea to keep promoting the same area, as in Jacksonville for at least 5 years.?   any thoughts.

    The Townsville-based North Queensland Cowboys and the Gold Coast Titans ought to play a match in Jacksonville.  If it were to be held as an annual event, then it could be used to promote Rugby League and tourism in Queensland.

  •  26-04-2008, 9:46 AM 266530 in reply to 266175

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    Interesting bit of reading this forum I must say. As the name suggests I am from the Empire(union) and all your talk is utter ***. You talk of how League will rise as if it ever will, its had over 100 years to grow and all its achieved is three nations of any real strength, and 42 other piss weak jokes. Go have a look at the IRB Rugby union world rankings and their are 95 countries on the rankings with another 80 that don't have enough points to register yet. On the Australian front, well the ARU have opened up the four Super 14 teams to private ownership and believe me for the other codes to disregard this move would be a grave mistake, the corporate world is overflowing with ruggers who will love an opportunity to own a slice of the likes of the Waratahs. Plus the push to expand the Super 14 to a 26 week competition and add between 2-4 new teams in Japan,USA and Argentina(they all have the players to produce competitive teams) and the opening of the player market so foreign players can play in any of the teams. We are coming back, and rest assured we will be raiding your best and brightest players real soon.On the worldwide front, WE ARE EVERYWHERE, the worldwide growth of rugby has been at the rate of 25% each year in every region, two years ago the official player number passed 10 million registered players which is about half of the player ranks of soccer. Africa,Asia and The Americas are booming and Europe is coming on nicely. New rules are being introduced and the finished prodict is far superior to anything you can produce. 4 Billion viewers can't be wrong. Enjoy your pathetic Rugby League World Cup, it won't matter. I look forward to your typical angry, derogatory and thuggish response all you fans of Thugby League.
  •  26-04-2008, 12:56 PM 266541 in reply to 266530

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    Grow up child, we are more worried about the real threat which is ariel ping pong, union is already dead in oz.
  •  26-04-2008, 5:30 PM 266605 in reply to 266541

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    Just keep saying that and maybe it'll come true. Personally, that's the attitude. Deny.deny.deny. Its worked so far.
  •  26-04-2008, 11:00 PM 266713 in reply to 266530

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    the empire:
    Interesting bit of reading this forum I must say. As the name suggests I am from the Empire(union) and all your talk is utter ***. You talk of how League will rise as if it ever will, its had over 100 years to grow and all its achieved is three nations of any real strength, and 42 other piss weak jokes. Go have a look at the IRB Rugby union world rankings and their are 95 countries on the rankings with another 80 that don't have enough points to register yet. On the Australian front, well the ARU have opened up the four Super 14 teams to private ownership and believe me for the other codes to disregard this move would be a grave mistake, the corporate world is overflowing with ruggers who will love an opportunity to own a slice of the likes of the Waratahs. Plus the push to expand the Super 14 to a 26 week competition and add between 2-4 new teams in Japan,USA and Argentina(they all have the players to produce competitive teams) and the opening of the player market so foreign players can play in any of the teams. We are coming back, and rest assured we will be raiding your best and brightest players real soon.On the worldwide front, WE ARE EVERYWHERE, the worldwide growth of rugby has been at the rate of 25% each year in every region, two years ago the official player number passed 10 million registered players which is about half of the player ranks of soccer. Africa,Asia and The Americas are booming and Europe is coming on nicely. New rules are being introduced and the finished prodict is far superior to anything you can produce. 4 Billion viewers can't be wrong. Enjoy your pathetic Rugby League World Cup, it won't matter. I look forward to your typical angry, derogatory and thuggish response all you fans of Thugby League.

    That should be your motto, "The Empire Strikes Back"  yer right daft vader , 

    And we dont talk as if we will rise, we have already risen, we woke up 100 years ago.

    "The other nations are growing", now that union has been found out.

    So rugby union is played in alot of countries, so what, you have done nothing with it for 150 years.

    The super 14 is a joke, this is why they change the rules, even with the changes, wont help them become more popular.

    If Corporate people want to waste money, good for them. And dont bore us with 26 weeks of that drival, it gets in our way now.

    Foreign players? we have foreign players if they are good enough, your overseas teams will be a joke.

    That rate has been minus 25 percent here in oz.

    So we only have to convert 10 million registered players, thats easy.

     Africa is doing alright?, asia and america booming, hardly.

    The new rules are a step towards you becoming rugby league, cant you see the writing on the wall.

    So you put 4 billion veiwers to sleep, we will wake them up with our world cup.

    And finally, yes i will enjoy our world cup, its been long overdue after being force fed your union drival.

  •  27-04-2008, 12:01 AM 266723 in reply to 266713

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    I dont mind watching union,

     

    Watching the Wallabies through the late 90's in the days of John Eales was great, there were some fantastic games played back then. But those days are long over. For years now I keep thinking "there will be a good game soon" but there never is. Union has become so slow and boring, perhaps due to the talent pool being stretched too far in Union after the Force were added. The ARU should be consolidating, not expanding. It truly has gone so far backwards, the crowds are so far below what they were even 5 years ago. Even the crowd for the Reds V Chiefs game last night in NZ was shocking. I know it was a dead rubber, but 5...even 3 years ago that wouldnt have mattered in NZ. And TV ratings, the NRL's new under 20's comp has been rating better than the super 14.

    It strikes me as a little odd that you would openly say "we will be raiding your best and brightest players soon" like as though thats something to be proud of. It just goes to show how much of a talent shortage there is in Union. All this on top of the record losses posted by the ARU last year of over $8 million means its looking very grim for the ARU, hopefully for your,and all other Union supporters it has hit rock bottom.

     

     

  •  27-04-2008, 12:55 AM 266729 in reply to 266723

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    Look i think we are all the same, i have nothing against any other sporting code, if you enjoy the game watch or play it, but i cant see why someone has  to go to a site and sprout on about there code when nobody is interested.

    Insercurity about there code maybe, i really enjoy having mat rogers back in league, even though he is getting onto his use-by date, its great to have him back. Now if you look at the talent league has ahead of him then you can see how far ahead league really is, use matty as a guide and think how good league has become.

    Wallabies are a spent force and the Kangaroos are by far the best team in the world, come this world cup they will be the best sponsered team, because they know how to win.

     

  •  27-04-2008, 1:10 AM 266730 in reply to 266729

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    I think it is insecurity about their code. I wouldnt even think about going on an RU forum to bag them out, because I dont need too.

     

     

  •  27-04-2008, 12:42 PM 266846 in reply to 266530

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    the empire:
    Interesting bit of reading this forum I must say. As the name suggests I am from the Empire(union) and all your talk is utter ***. You talk of how League will rise as if it ever will, its had over 100 years to grow and all its achieved is three nations of any real strength, and 42 other piss weak jokes. Go have a look at the IRB Rugby union world rankings and their are 95 countries on the rankings with another 80 that don't have enough points to register yet. On the Australian front, well the ARU have opened up the four Super 14 teams to private ownership and believe me for the other codes to disregard this move would be a grave mistake, the corporate world is overflowing with ruggers who will love an opportunity to own a slice of the likes of the Waratahs. Plus the push to expand the Super 14 to a 26 week competition and add between 2-4 new teams in Japan,USA and Argentina(they all have the players to produce competitive teams) and the opening of the player market so foreign players can play in any of the teams. We are coming back, and rest assured we will be raiding your best and brightest players real soon.On the worldwide front, WE ARE EVERYWHERE, the worldwide growth of rugby has been at the rate of 25% each year in every region, two years ago the official player number passed 10 million registered players which is about half of the player ranks of soccer. Africa,Asia and The Americas are booming and Europe is coming on nicely. New rules are being introduced and the finished prodict is far superior to anything you can produce. 4 Billion viewers can't be wrong. Enjoy your pathetic Rugby League World Cup, it won't matter. I look forward to your typical angry, derogatory and thuggish response all you fans of Thugby League.

    The real savages are the administrators from the world's various national governing bodies for Rugby Union.  They have done everything in their power to kill off Rugby League expansion.  It has been going on since 1895.  The most recent example is the case of the Georgia Rugby Union killing off the countriy's upstart Rugby League organisation because it was gaining too much popularity.

    Rugby League was introduced to the Georgian national men's Rugby Union team in 2003.  The national team saw the game while they were playing in the 2003 World Cup.  They loved the sport of Rugby League so much that they decided to take it back to Georgia.  (If Rugby Union is better than Rugby League, then how come the Georgian players took an interest in Rugby League?)

    The Vichy Regime tried to kill off Rugby League in France. 

    The Australian Rugby Union tried to kill off Rugby League.  It didn't work.  On the contrary, it has led to the Australian Rugby Union's spiral towards the depths of the sporting world's shithouse!

    Rugby Union in Australia is dying.  The participation rate of Queenslanders playing Rugby Union is lower than the participation rate of Queenslanders playing Rugby League.  The inclusion of the Western Force and ACT Brumbies has drained Queensland's playing base.  The ARU's attempt at starting a national competition was a monumental failure.

    There have been times when the Bledisloe Cup -- the main attraction of Rugby Union in Australia -- hase failed to draw as many TV viewers as regular season NRL matches.  This speaks volumes about Australia's lack of interest in Rugby Union.  The ARU needs to poach players from League and the Pacific Islands because its grassroots level isn't strong enough to produce enough world-class players to fill four teams.  (And they want to introduce a team on the Gold Coast?  Madness!)

    Even the New Zealand Rugby Union (NZRU) are losing money!  If the NZRU cannot make a profit, then the ARU are going to need to do something ingenius to cease their financial losses.

  •  28-04-2008, 1:13 PM 267444 in reply to 266530

    Re: Will America ever accept Rugby League as a "serious" sport?

    the empire:
    Interesting bit of reading this forum I must say. As the name suggests I am from the Empire(union) and all your talk is utter ***. You talk of how League will rise as if it ever will, its had over 100 years to grow and all its achieved is three nations of any real strength, and 42 other piss weak jokes. Go have a look at the IRB Rugby union world rankings and their are 95 countries on the rankings with another 80 that don't have enough points to register yet. On the Australian front, well the ARU have opened up the four Super 14 teams to private ownership and believe me for the other codes to disregard this move would be a grave mistake, the corporate world is overflowing with ruggers who will love an opportunity to own a slice of the likes of the Waratahs. Plus the push to expand the Super 14 to a 26 week competition and add between 2-4 new teams in Japan,USA and Argentina(they all have the players to produce competitive teams) and the opening of the player market so foreign players can play in any of the teams. We are coming back, and rest assured we will be raiding your best and brightest players real soon.On the worldwide front, WE ARE EVERYWHERE, the worldwide growth of rugby has been at the rate of 25% each year in every region, two years ago the official player number passed 10 million registered players which is about half of the player ranks of soccer. Africa,Asia and The Americas are booming and Europe is coming on nicely. New rules are being introduced and the finished prodict is far superior to anything you can produce. 4 Billion viewers can't be wrong. Enjoy your pathetic Rugby League World Cup, it won't matter. I look forward to your typical angry, derogatory and thuggish response all you fans of Thugby League.

    a RU fan on a RL site.  FMD, you cant sniff these days on one of our sites without an insecure fan of a rival minor sport chirping on.
     
    here are the latest ratings in australia on Pay TV :
    summary of Pay TV Ratings this week :


    1st : RL - 1.864 million viewers
    2nd - Daylight
    3rd AFL - 949,000 viewers
    4th Daylight 
    5th RU - 284,000

     

     

    remember that RL is also shown on FTA getting around 2.5 million extra viewers a week, whilst union isnt shown. 

     

    so whilst the NRL gets around 4.3 million viewers a week, union gets under 300,000.

     

    indeed the TV ratings for the NRL in one year exceed the combined ratings of union worldwide not including a world cup.

     

    the problem with union is that it is the dominant sport in nz, and really nowehere else.

     

    RL is domianant in queensland and nsw, with a combined population over 11 million.

     

    just that market exceeds all of the markets where union is dominant worldwide.

     

     

     
  •  28-04-2008, 1:15 PM 267446 in reply to 266541

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    union ratings down by over a million, or 22% in nz, the only country where its the national sport :

     

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz:80/section/4/story.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10506478 

  •  28-04-2008, 1:16 PM 267447 in reply to 267446

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    cash strapped ARU to sell off equity in S14 sides to keep them afloat :

     

     

    http://sj.farmonline.com.au/news/metro/national/general/aru-seeks-private-investors-for-super-14/85062.aspx 

  •  28-04-2008, 1:18 PM 267448 in reply to 267447

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    RUs premier club competition the S14 outrated by a RL junior comp :

     

    http://www.sydneyroosters.com.au/news.php?ArticleID=3137 

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